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		<title>By: PixieGirl Blog &#124; My World Through Graphic Design</title>
		<link>http://www.fuelyourcreativity.com/hourly-or-flat-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-29137</link>
		<dc:creator>PixieGirl Blog &#124; My World Through Graphic Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] briefly browsed though other posts and found many that were noteworthy, from Hourly Rates or Flat Fees? to How Do You Beat the Creative Block to Invoicing, Time Tracking &amp; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, guys. This kind of puts things in perspective for me. I myself have done some work for clients in the past where there was no agreed hourly rate for revisions. I would charge a flat rate and they would require massive changes at times, not to the design but to the content that they had originally supplied them. Since I had not set a revisions hourly rate, they seemed to think that they owned me! [Slight exaggeration] I have since stopped doing any work for those guys. Maybe if I had the revisions hourly rate in place, they would have been more careful about the content they had sent me and I would have saved a lot of time. Great topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, guys. This kind of puts things in perspective for me. I myself have done some work for clients in the past where there was no agreed hourly rate for revisions. I would charge a flat rate and they would require massive changes at times, not to the design but to the content that they had originally supplied them. Since I had not set a revisions hourly rate, they seemed to think that they owned me! [Slight exaggeration] I have since stopped doing any work for those guys. Maybe if I had the revisions hourly rate in place, they would have been more careful about the content they had sent me and I would have saved a lot of time. Great topic.</p>
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		<title>By: MIchelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIchelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adelle- Interesting idea to &quot;make them pay more attention the first time around.&quot; Something tells me new clients make the &quot;mistake&quot; of not collecting their thoughts initially only once or twice.

Thanks for the comment!

PS- I admit to being completely guilty of that annoying back and forth in my previous live as a Mkt. Project Manager. I will be paying my penance eventually, I&#039;m sure. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adelle- Interesting idea to &#8220;make them pay more attention the first time around.&#8221; Something tells me new clients make the &#8220;mistake&#8221; of not collecting their thoughts initially only once or twice.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
<p>PS- I admit to being completely guilty of that annoying back and forth in my previous live as a Mkt. Project Manager. I will be paying my penance eventually, I&#8217;m sure. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: MIchelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIchelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing your arrangements, Liam. 

I was recently a customer of 2 designers who each treated the job differently. The first charged a (what I consider) slightly higher amount ($100/hr) for the simple layout and design of my wedding invite...even though I provided the graphic and told them where I wanted it! These guys had no problem with the 4 proofs it ended up taking to get it right, though. The other person included 3 revisions in the original price, none of which I ended up taking.

As a customer I was OK with either arrangement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your arrangements, Liam. </p>
<p>I was recently a customer of 2 designers who each treated the job differently. The first charged a (what I consider) slightly higher amount ($100/hr) for the simple layout and design of my wedding invite&#8230;even though I provided the graphic and told them where I wanted it! These guys had no problem with the 4 proofs it ended up taking to get it right, though. The other person included 3 revisions in the original price, none of which I ended up taking.</p>
<p>As a customer I was OK with either arrangement.</p>
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		<title>By: adelle charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>adelle charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually seem to go in the direction of a flat fee for most of my projects. Once the project is almost complete and all of the clients original needs are met, I give them one revision. If they want more changes after that, I charge hourly. I make sure they know that upfront / contract etc..

You usually find it goes much smoother and they pay attention closer the first time around instead of endless back and forth emails and changes!

Great topic Michelle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually seem to go in the direction of a flat fee for most of my projects. Once the project is almost complete and all of the clients original needs are met, I give them one revision. If they want more changes after that, I charge hourly. I make sure they know that upfront / contract etc..</p>
<p>You usually find it goes much smoother and they pay attention closer the first time around instead of endless back and forth emails and changes!</p>
<p>Great topic Michelle.</p>
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		<title>By: liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a flat fee price agreed upon reading the clients needs is the best way to go (for me at least.) 

The only time this becomes a problem is Updates/Changes. If the client is asking for a lot of changes to the brief you need to have a system in place to make sure you&#039;re still getting paid for these updates. Charging a flat fee, and then Hourly rates for any updates I think is fair, maybe allow for a few changes in the initial brief, but any more than a few is going to start eating up your time.

Interesting Topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a flat fee price agreed upon reading the clients needs is the best way to go (for me at least.) </p>
<p>The only time this becomes a problem is Updates/Changes. If the client is asking for a lot of changes to the brief you need to have a system in place to make sure you&#8217;re still getting paid for these updates. Charging a flat fee, and then Hourly rates for any updates I think is fair, maybe allow for a few changes in the initial brief, but any more than a few is going to start eating up your time.</p>
<p>Interesting Topic.</p>
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